November 10, 2008
Would this be disrespective of Islam?
D*Kat asked:
Me n my boyfriend's younger sis Somaya were chatting earlier....about women who don the ninja lol [wear the black niquab & abaya] : we were wondering what people would react like if we went out on the street dressed like this in the USA...She's Moroccan but wears normal/conservative clothes & that black bandana (she is only 19 but has chosen to wear the hijab when she get's married.)
It would be just to see what it feels like in these women's shoes..do u think we should try it?
IM NOT MOCKING IT..R U BLIND.."WE WOULD LIKE 2 SEE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE IN THEIR SHOES!!!!"
and again TERRY! what has r status got to do with the Q!!!!
History of ideas your my hero!..well on this q anyway...luwayla your A is good too..
Terry: I don't "brag about my status",
I just call him "boyfriend" or "partner" because he isn't my husband. duh!
Complete disrespect for Islam & it's practices? Why..just cause im not muslim and im with a muslim?
You dont even know waht true LOVE is!
Tip: next time you pray..ask for a more open mind.
Me n my boyfriend's younger sis Somaya were chatting earlier....about women who don the ninja lol [wear the black niquab & abaya] : we were wondering what people would react like if we went out on the street dressed like this in the USA...She's Moroccan but wears normal/conservative clothes & that black bandana (she is only 19 but has chosen to wear the hijab when she get's married.)
It would be just to see what it feels like in these women's shoes..do u think we should try it?
IM NOT MOCKING IT..R U BLIND.."WE WOULD LIKE 2 SEE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE IN THEIR SHOES!!!!"
and again TERRY! what has r status got to do with the Q!!!!
History of ideas your my hero!..well on this q anyway...luwayla your A is good too..
Terry: I don't "brag about my status",
I just call him "boyfriend" or "partner" because he isn't my husband. duh!
Complete disrespect for Islam & it's practices? Why..just cause im not muslim and im with a muslim?
You dont even know waht true LOVE is!
Tip: next time you pray..ask for a more open mind.
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i think ur not a muslim , if u were, its haram to have a boyfriend, and ur boyfriend's sister might die b4 she puts hijab, she should put it on, shes ganna get more bad deeds probably cuze shes getting older, and if u wanna make fun of those sisters that dress up like ninjas, i think not, ull look like 100% terroists and might be killde in the streets of the us. good luck, and wearing the thingy that covers ur face isnt in islam, its destroying the world of the sunna of muhammad peace and prayers be upon him, hijab is the way we were taught.
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no. if u wna understand the hijab, and all forms of it, u should study the reasons its worn. not from wikipedia or something liek tht. the actual reasons tht islam has given, ie fro the quran, hadith or from a mosque, study it properly, ask a woman who practices hijab. until ur fully sure Y its worn, then u can ask soemone how they feel when they wear it. erm but i dont rely suggest u wear it and go out. if u wer to ask a woman hu wear hijab how she feels and her experiences, u must be aware her accounts are those of only one woman, or representing a certain number of women. all women feel different. and since u jus wna know how they feel, i dnt think u need to go out n do it urself, most ppl wouldnt react very positively.
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Why not?
Maybe after wearing it you might like it so much that you'll both start wearing it for good. It's your Boyfriend's sister's prerogative whether she decides to wear the scarf or not, as long as she wears it Inshallah.
Its up to you. You're not doing anything wrong.
Each to their own
P.S Have fun!
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1) The word is *disrespectful*, not disrespective.
2) Your relationship with your boyfriend is HARAM and disrespectful to Islam.
3) Calling niqab and abaya 'ninja' is in itself offensive and disrespectful.
4) Don't disrespect Islam by dressing this way. It's a mockery to dress that way in jest. Women who dress that way do it out of respect for themselves. You are lacking in that area.
Addition: Thanks for the thumbs down… Everything about your question is disrespectful, whether you want to admit it or not. You ARE mocking this way of dressing, simply with your choice of words. Maybe you should carefully process your thoughts next time.
No, I am not blind. I know exactly what I see here.
YOU are the one who continually brags about your status. You are arrogantly proud of this fact, despite how horrible your actions are seen by Muslims. I try not to judge anybody, but you brag about your complete dispect for Islam and its practices. THAT is sad.
Edit: ROFL… will it ever end?
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maybe u should try it since u sound pretty ignorant and disrespectful. i'm surprised ur muslim boyfriend and ur bf's sis would even make fun of it. it is obligatory in islam. i waer it (what u call ninja clothes) , yes it black and long, but i feel like it is my gurad against the cruel world around me, and i'm only 15 just so u know. i do feel discriminated especially coming form people who r ignorant, they give me looks, and u seem like the kind of person who would laugh at me as well. i hope Allah guides u and ur bf's sis because she's going down the wrong path my friend.
ok peace.
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If you are a muslim, then you should know that having a boyfriend is haram. first thing. Secondly, calling her ninja.. and saying lolz… isn't appreciated or wise at all. Infact its unethical and against islam as hijab reveals Islam.
If she wants to dress up like that, full hijab. Allah will be so happy of her. She is on the right track.
Anyone who lives for this world only, is a loser. One shall know the teachings of ISlam and what our religion is all about. If you are a muslim, alhumdulillah you are already blessed. so try to make the best of it. rather making your life a curse for your ownself.
Its a matter of your life and you shall not ignore it. ~! tc
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It's fair that your boyfriend's sister only wants to weat the hijab once she's married. Unless you're going to follow Islam whole-heartedly, hijab is not a good idea. It's disrespectful actually.
Edit- I've just read your further comment. I don't think you were mocking. I just think you asked a question, and I answered it. All in all, no. I do not think you should try it. The hijab has a meaning that you do not understand. It's not a fashion statement, and by trying it you won't come close to the way these women feel. The hijab is about modesty and privacy, and it's not just about the scarf covering the hair or the body covering. It's also about the behaviour and what it means to the wearer. It's deeper than you think!
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1) having a boyfriend is not wrong in Islam
2)She's just joking about the ninja part, don't muslims have a sense of humor?
3) hijab is not mandated by Islam, it's a part of Islam but if you want to follow in the footsteps of these humorless muslim "solehah" then to each her own.
4)Life is tough for those who chose to wear a veil in western countries, doesn't make em brave souls but kinda loony.
5)she just wanted to put herself in their shoes out of compassion you insane stupid self righteuos muslim idiots.
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You clearly care more about what people say than about what Allah does since you have a boyfriend
Mocking niqab is not a joke - im not saying i agree with this fatwa but it shows how serious the issue is
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What is the ruling concerning one who ridicules those who wear the proper hijab and cover their faces and hands?
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
Whoever ridicules a Muslim woman or man for sticking to and applying the teachings of Islam is a disbeliever. This is regardless of whether it is concerning woman's hijab or any other matter of the Shariah. This is based on the following narration from ibn Umar: At a gathering during the Battle of Tabuk, one man said, "I have not seen
anyone like our Quranic readers who is more desirous of food, more lying in speech and more cowardly when meeting the enemy." A man said, "You have lied and you are a liar. I shall definitely tell the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) about that."
That news was conveyed to the Messenger of Allah and the Quran was revealed. Abdullah ibn Umar added, "I saw the man holding on to the bag of the camel of the Messenger of Allah and the dust was striking him while he was saying, 'O Messenger of Allah, we were just joking and playing. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) was simply saying the verse of the Quran],
"Was it Allah, and His Signs and His Messenger you were mocking? Make no excuse, you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others among you because they were sinners" (al-Tauba 65-66).
So ridiculing believers has been equated with ridiculing Allah, His Signs and His Messenger.
The Standing Committee (www.islam-qa.com)
You see how serious Allah took that issue which I was far less serious than some one mocking a Niqabi sister for wearing a Niqab by calling her ninja, laughing at her when others make fun of her Niqab or call her backward or extreme. Or worse.
The historical incidence was mocking the Quran readers and not even mocking the rules of Allah or implying that those who wear Niqab are extreme and so on.
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I think it would be cool!! Where you can see everbody else without them seeing your identity– face and body.
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Some people may find it disrespectful but actually I think it can be a good thing to see how people react and to know what it feels like for somebody else by stepping a day in their shoes and seeing how strong they really are.
There are women who have done this before and there was a day they used to have where women wore hijab for a day to see what it was like and to support women's right to wear it.
Really, I say go for it -TOGETHER. Perhaps it might break some stereotypes. Just know that you might not really see ppl's true reactions because depending what you do when you are wearing it you might not really be representing a Muslim lady. (If you did something no Muslimah would do for example.)
best of luck - I'd love to hear the conclusions you come to in the end.
edit: I do think you are pretty ignorant about it and it's disrespectful to say "ninja" and stuff but seriously you could learn a lot from the experience but your intentions matter and the way you go about doing this matters. If you go out there all giggling and stuff it's just stupid but if you seriously plan it out like "We are going to go to the store to buy some milk and come back." You'll be fine and you BOTH could learn something.
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well you're description was very offensive and it doesn't show that you respect muslims in general w/your words. and just so you know i'm american and i wear black and wear niqaab and yes in america, so i have the right to wear what i want. it's better than walking around outside looking like a cheap ********** advertising her wares. anyway we do wear regular clothes,just b/c we choose not to show what we look like doesn't give you the right to call us ninjas or anyhing else. i'll just tell you i used to be just like you and would've never thought i as a christian would dress like or be one of those and guess what as you can see i am a proud american muslim today. you never know what plan God has for you. . no you shouldn't b/c if you have so little respect for them why would you care how they're treated,you're just making a mockery if you ask me. yes it's a difficult time when i'm out but i wouldn't have it any other way. i respect myself and can take care of myself physically if need be,so i don't need you or anyone else feeling sorry for me or my sisters who have chosen to be pious and modest.
and you are making a mockery with your speech and if you really respected the religion you wouldn't be have in this matter and if your boyfriend(btw dating is not permissible in islaam) and his sister needs to study more a/b islamm as well if she thinks it's funny to mock her sisters and she should be covering anyway if she has her period. she better hope that she lives long enough to wear it.
and to whoever said the niqaab is not a part of islaam then YOU need to study as well b/c although is not waajib, it's recommended. the prophet muhammad's(saw) wives all wore it.
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yea sure go ahead try it out. But just for the record, women in US arent forced to wear the hizab so as far as how they feel qs is concerned, they feel respected and secure.
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I'm so sorry you are getting all these rude answers. I have to agree that there doesn't seem to be a sense of humor here and saying "don the ninja" is not disrespectful geez! I'm not Muslim, but recently when I visited a Muslim country I wore the jelleba and hijab some and I did feel different. The reason I wore it was out of respect for the tradition. I was there during Ramadan and did not want to go out in public without them because I didn't want to be the cause of some man having impure thoughts. I got just as many looks wearing it as I did not wearing it because it was a beautiful jelleba and not many were made like mine. In Morocco they do not wear only black, but wear jellebas of many different colors. I see nothing wrong with experimenting. I mean if a non-Muslim does it then what is wrong with a Muslim doing it.
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I'm not going to comment on some of the other stuff in your question (boyfriend, ninja, etc etc), but i will say that when i was interested in converting to Islam, and before i actually did convert, i wore the hijab outside a few times to see how it made me feel. It made me feel wonderful because i saw how it lowered most men's gazes, and it felt so right to me. And now, as a muslim, i wear the hijab (no niqab, and i never will). Wearing it befoire i converted helped pushed me closer to wanting to join Islam…its hard to explain.
However, I'm not quite sure if your intentions are correct. Mine were to find out more about how it felt to be a muslim woman, since i was already intrigued by the religion. Oyurs might be to make fun…im not sure and im not going to judge you on that. But if you are sincerely interested, then go ahead - try it on outside for an hour or so. Just remember that you have to act differently too, and you will be impersonating something that you are not.
Actually wearing it outside isnt what would be disrespectful…only if you make fun of it, and if your intentions are bad, will it be disrespectful. Inshallah this is not the case.
=)
Edit: I agree completely with Fez, she said what i meant to say…just better =p
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Woah!! History of Ideas no offense but where did u get boyfriends arent haraam!!!
And Im muslim and if u had a day with me in it all i do is humor.
Anyways. Its gr8 u wanna try. I'm 11 I wear Hijab. My neighbor wears the whole thing with the "ninja" thing.
So try it. But it shouldnt be for fun it should be just to take on a new thought a new life.
-All the best
(In my answers I try not to be rude to the questioner or answerers so if i was pleez forgive me.)
-MeTheOne&Only
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Do what you want but have some respect, please. My mother wears niqab and is not a ninja. That's really stupid of you to say.
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It would not be mocking is you are aware of the reasons why these women chose to cover their bodies in that matter. Try it Insha Allah you may discover something about yourself.
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covering aurat for both man and women are directive from Allah s.w.t so please do not make fun of it.
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